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6 years, 6 months ago
@john.morgan I'm online now. If you want to have your account on flossmanuals deleted, you need to contact Mick, the admin. But what would be the drawback of just leaving it as is? It doesn't mean you need to do anything.
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6 years, 9 months ago
@Sergio Hi there :) What's up? This seems to be the markers file that comes with Inkscape, right?
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6 years, 9 months ago
@jon.peyer
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Hi Jon,
those tasks were meant as a list to choose from (or think of your own) - I think you've made a good choice that will help bring the manual forward in an important way.
I very much value contributors who are realistic about how much they can and would like to do - it makes it a lot easier to plan and to understand what one can ask from someone, without making them uncomfortable. So - thanks :) And no worries!
So, what I'd like you to do is to open an issue at gitlab for your selected task, which we can use to more conveniently (and more publicly) communicate.
These snippets here are not exactly fun to use ... ;-)
Then the next step would be to check out the recently added Mac installation chapter, and to see if you can make something similar (or even better) for Windows.
Do you have any questions before you get started?
Thanks for your help,
Maren
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6 years, 9 months ago
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Hi Jon,
Cool, I didn't know anything like that would be part of university education, I love that :)
How long will your course last?
It's not a problem that you don't have any previous Inkscape experience - this is a beginners' guide, so having beginners working on it and clarifying things is good, as the hurdles that people like you encounter are then still fresh on their mind, and are likely the same ones the readers stumble over.
Also, you being a native speaker is great, because I am not (I'm German), and I've translated this thing from French.
I don't know if you've already found it, but the discussions about the book mostly take place at gitlab:
https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape-docs/manuals/
Please read the README, and take a peek into the issues section there.
If you are on Windows, then your first contribution could be writing the chapter for installation on Windows. It should be mostly version agnostic, and may have ample screenshots. The recently finished Mac chapter could be a good model. Requirements for good screenshots are listed here: https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape-docs/manuals/issues/16
We also need someone to retake all (or some of) the remaining French-containing screenshots, in a good resolution.
Or we could use help styling and formatting the pages. This may need some inter-project communication and web (CSS + Javascript) skills, depending on whether we want to do it all manually, or whether we want to adapt the editing website to make editing easier first.
Proofreading and copyediting would be another way to contribute. The book has already been read by 3 non-native speakers who have given their feedback, and one native speaker has worked on some chapters. We need checking for consistency, and some work on making chapters follow a similar pattern.
Or there's the task of designing a layout, and adapting the pages' contents to it. I already have some stuff in mind and would be happy to discuss with someone.
You need to know that this manual is not a part of the Inkscape project that many people regularly work on, so it's maybe not the full open source project experience that you'd get here. I would make sure to be available for mentoring, but I cannot promise that many other people will come along and help us (although, we could also find a community-outreach job for you, to try and pull in others, and there's also some announcement work, and even some Inkscape program work to be done, when this is ready ;-))
Let me know if any of these tasks sound interesting to you.
As for the 'proof of contribution' (or whatever you'd call it), it was more or less that I would like to know what I'll be required to do for it (if anything). Not being a native speaker makes me a bit afraid of writing something like a recommendation or whatever could be needed ;-)
I hope to hear from you soon, and I'd very much love having your help here.
Maren
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6 years, 10 months ago
@jon.peyer Hi Jon, that's great, your help would be very welcome. To help you find the best task for you, can you tell us a bit about your level of experience with Inkscape, with layout/design, and web technology, or manual writing in general? What's your study subject? Do you need any kind of confirmation of your contributions? Maren
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6 years, 10 months ago
@aplusburger Thank you, Allison, that would be awesome. We already have a couple of dedicated 'issues' on gitlab for proofreading (the list might not be complete, but you can create issues if needed) Here it is: https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape-docs/manuals/issues. You can use them to put your feedback in, if it's something that seems to need discussion (maybe because you don't know the functionality well), or you can edit directly in the book and let us know on the issue when a chapter is done. Also, when you have made any edits, don't forget to add yourself to the authors list ;-)
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6 years, 10 months ago
@aplusburger Hi there, yes, we need some help in very different areas. Can you tell us a bit about your background - e.g. do you know how to edit html, or are you a native speaker of English, or are you an expert user or a new user of Inkscape etc.? Our editing guidelines and organizational things are described in this document at gitlab: https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape-docs/manuals/blob/master/README.md . Please introduce yourself on the Inkscape docs mailing list, if you want to help with editing the book. If you want to provide feedback only, it's sufficient to contact us via 'issues' on gitlab. Thanks! See you there! Maren
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6 years, 11 months ago
@rosalind.lord As far as I know, a simple account on gitlab should be sufficient (and a mailing list subscription). I've made you a 'reporter', because, unless you know what to do with git, there's no need for developer permissions. Please let me know if you require more.
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6 years, 11 months ago
@john.morgan Hi! Great, seems you've already got an account! Can you join the group: http://write.flossmanuals.net/groups/beginners-manual-for-inkscape/ ?
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6 years, 11 months ago
@rosalind.lord Hey, welcome! Can you please join us on gitlab or introduce yourself on the inkscape-docs mailing list? https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape-docs/manuals
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7 years, 5 months ago
!beginners-manual-for-inkscape Hey,
@Sergio :) Nice to see you on the editors' side :D
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7 years, 5 months ago
@elisa.dcg Hi again, Elisa :) When you upload new images, can you make sure they use English file names and a dot (instead of a comma) as decimal separator? Then I don't have to reupload them :) (having English file names will help other editors)
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7 years, 5 months ago
@elisa.dcg Thanks for looking into the pictures! If you can share some of the source SVG files, you could do so here: https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape-docs/manuals/tree/master/beginners_guide/image_sources
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7 years, 5 months ago
@brynn Yes, there doesn't seem to be a button for everything we need. However, we first need to decide on what exactly we need. See you on the bug report about Consistency checking!
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7 years, 5 months ago
@brynn Yes, it's the browser tab with the editing window. It needs to be closed by either hitting on 'Save' or on 'Cancel' when you're done editing. If you don't, and have other tabs open, the chapter may still be blocked for others.
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7 years, 5 months ago
@elisa.dcg Extensions: rewritten with newer info, see attached snippet.
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Installing Extensions
It is easy to install extensions created by the community, or, for those who know how to write in the Python programming language, to write their own. To learn more about the inner workings of Inkscape extensions, visit the Inkscape website.
Many extensions can be found in the website's gallery. Note that these extensions are not curated, and that many extension developers choose to publish their extension on other websites.
Generally, to install a new extension, you need to download and unpack its files. Copy the files into the directory listed at Edit > Preferences > System: User extensions. After a restart of Inkscape, the new extension will be available. Some extensions may come with different installation instructions.
A couple of extensions may depend on other programs, that will need to be installed on your computer for them to work correctly. Usually, the author of the extension will provide instructions for this.
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7 years, 5 months ago
@elisa.dcg Extension internals can be learnt at https://inkscape.org/develop/extensions/ now.
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7 years, 5 months ago
@elisa.dcg Several -er should be -ez in the Pattern along Path extension instructions.
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7 years, 5 months ago
@elisa.dcg In several places throughout the book the term 'canevas' is used for designating the page area, while in the introduction, both are explained correctly.
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7 years, 5 months ago
@elisa.dcg Extensions: Barcode extension is now a set of extensions with a lot more options.
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7 years, 5 months ago
@elisa.dcg Extensions: It would be helpful to also name the submenu where the extensions can be found.
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7 years, 5 months ago
@elisa.dcg Extensions: Color Markers (different name), is not needed anymore to match marker color to object color - but can be used freely now, to set an arbitrary color.
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7 years, 5 months ago
@elisa.dcg Extensions: Last extension (web) should be a separate list item.
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7 years, 5 months ago
@elisa.dcg Filters: Effets d'image -> Image Paint and Draw (wrong submenu)
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7 years, 5 months ago
@elisa.dcg Filters: Modifying Filters: le principe... -> Le principe
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7 years, 5 months ago
@elisa.dcg Filters, Drop Shadow: The new dialog in 0.92 looks different - opacity can now be set in the 'Color' tab, and the shadow can have a color.
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7 years, 5 months ago
@elisa.dcg Copy/Duplicate chapter is missing Paste (copy does not insert into the document, paste does)
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7 years, 5 months ago
@elisa.dcg You're welcome :) I'm almost through, only 6 chapters left!
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7 years, 5 months ago
@Moini thanks you for all this comment. Be sure there are usefull for me :) (and the book)
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7 years, 5 months ago
@elisa.dcg Raster image import: Extract/embedding images can also be done by right-clicking on the images, then choosing extract image or Embed image. The extension is useful if you have multiple images that you want to embed/extract at the same time.
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7 years, 5 months ago
@elisa.dcg PNG file export: "Les débutants sont souvent surpris..." - the default setting is a transparent background - does this need to be mentioned? If so, it would only need to be explained for getting a white background.
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7 years, 6 months ago
@elisa.dcg Texte suivant un chemin: duplicated full-stop at "divers outils chemins.. "
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7 years, 6 months ago
@elisa.dcg Styling text: I think these two are the same: Le décalage ponctuel horizontal, vertical ou une rotation pour créer un espace précis. - Des champs pour déplacer la sélection de lettres par rapport aux autres.
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7 years, 6 months ago
@elisa.dcg Styling text: duplicate entry for "Placer rapidement un exposant ou un indice."
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7 years, 6 months ago
@elisa.dcg Marker Order: Les marqueurs et le contour chevauche de 50% -> chevauchent?
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7 years, 6 months ago
@elisa.dcg "Pour l'instant les modifications de cette option ne sont pas immédiatement visibles sur le canevas. Vous devez entrer vos valeurs de lignes et colonnes, basculer sur le mode aplat et revenir au mode filet pour voir le filet s'épaissir." - This replaces the gradient and deletes all changes that you made before. It's better to modify the gradient by double-clicking on a mesh line. Like with the normal gradient tool, it's not possible to switch gradients with the tool controls.
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7 years, 6 months ago
@elisa.dcg Mesh gradient: There is a 'to start, select the object', but then the step of applying the gradient is missing. The word 'créées' seems to contain 1 é too much.
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7 years, 6 months ago
@elisa.dcg Gradients: "mais aussi dans la barre d'option de l'outil dégradé." does not work. Changing a gradient's nature is only possible via Fill+Stroke dialog. One can add a new gradient, that replaces the old one, though. 'apparais' -> apparait (I think)
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7 years, 6 months ago
@elisa.dcg Palette chapter: Location to save custom palettes can be described like this: Look into Edit -> Preferences -> System: User config. Create a folder named 'palettes' there. Save the .gpl file into that folder. Restart Inkscape to see the new palette.
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7 years, 6 months ago
@elisa.dcg Tweak tool: 'Move objects' mode only moves objects, not nodes.
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7 years, 6 months ago
@elisa.dcg Tweak tool: "Pour l'utiliser, sélectionnez le chemin ou la partie du chemin, avec l'outil Nœud,..." - selecting nodes does not have any effect. The tool always works on all parts of selected objects.
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7 years, 6 months ago
@elisa.dcg Trace Bitmap: "Quantification des couleurs. Utile si vous souhaitez avoir un résultat coloré." - Color Quantization creates a black-and-white image. It traces along the borders of the colors.
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7 years, 6 months ago
@elisa.dcg Sorry for the last message, my French isn't too good...
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7 years, 6 months ago
@elisa.dcg Nodes chapter: Il existe plusieurs -> Il existent plusieurs
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7 years, 6 months ago
@elisa.dcg : Cut path: plural for chemin(s) et intersection(s)?
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7 years, 6 months ago
@elisa.dcg : In the list of Boolops, maybe replace 'forme' by 'path'?
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7 years, 6 months ago
@elisa.dcg : Attention un objet peut toujours... -> Attention: une forme peut toujours...
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7 years, 6 months ago
@elisa.dcg Boolean operations: There's a space missing in 2. (convert shape to path)
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7 years, 6 months ago
@elisa.dcg Boolean operations: Il existe -> Il existent
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7 years, 6 months ago
@elisa.dcg In the calligraphy tool chapter, the 'Brosse' tip is duplicated (see list item for 'Marqueur'.)
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7 years, 6 months ago
@elisa.dcg Hi :) Translated pencil tool today, see attached snippet for what I found. Have good start into the week!
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Pencil tool:
"Les deux modes adoucissent" - I think you missed this when updating - three, now :) Only the spiro could be said to do smoothing.
B-Spline: The description of what it does is a bit vague. The B-Spline is more useful when you draw with the Bézier tool, of course.... Or when you switch to the node tool, then it's easy to understand what it does.
spriographique -> spirographique
Last image on the left: I think this is a spiro path, not Bézier mode?
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7 years, 6 months ago
@elisa.dcg Added you as an admin :) Also join the group: http://write.flossmanuals.net/groups/beginners-manual-for-inkscape/
